WASSAP: The Africa-West Asia Podcast

WASSAP: The Africa – West Asia Podcast translates the findings of a three-year research project on West Asian (Gulf)-Sub-Saharan African relations into an accessible, engaging audio format. It explores how economic, political, cultural, religious, and security ties between selected Gulf countries and African partners are evolving and why these shifts matter globally, particularly for Europe.

Hosts of the podcast are Désirée Custers (Project Manager, CARPO) & Hubert Kinkoh (Senior Researcher, CARPO)

The WASSAP podcast is supported by the Robert Bosch Foundation.

WASSAP: The Africa-West Asia Podcast

Latest episodes

Across the Red Sea: Historical and Cultural Connections Between Africa and West Asia

Across the Red Sea: Historical and Cultural Connections Between Africa and West Asia

35m 16s

In this episode of the WASSAP podcast, hosts Desirée Custers and Hubert Kinkoh are joined by Professor Anne K. Bang, historian at the University of Bergen and a leading scholar of the Indian Ocean world, to explore the historical and cultural connections linking East Africa and the Arabian Peninsula.

The conversation challenges the idea of the Red Sea as a barrier between regions and instead presents it as a space of mobility, exchange, and connectivity. Professor Bang explains how maritime trade routes connected coastal communities across the Red Sea and the Indian Ocean, facilitating the movement of merchants, scholars, religious...

Two Shores, One Sea: The Horn of Africa and West Asia in a Contested Red Sea

Two Shores, One Sea: The Horn of Africa and West Asia in a Contested Red Sea

42m 37s

In this episode of the WASSAP podcast, hosts Désirée Custers and Hubert Kinkoh are joined by Alan Boswell, Horn of Africa Director at the International Crisis Group and host of The Horn podcast, to explore the growing interconnectedness of the Horn of Africa, the Gulf, and the wider Red Sea region.

The conversation traces how Gulf engagement in the Horn has evolved over the past decade, examining the impact of Gulf rivalries, the war in Sudan, tensions in Yemen, and the fallout from the Iran crisis on regional security dynamics. Alan discusses how conflicts across the Red Sea increasingly spill...

Africa and the Gulf in a Multipolar Economy: Trade, Investment, and Strategic Partnerships

Africa and the Gulf in a Multipolar Economy: Trade, Investment, and Strategic Partnerships

24m 4s

In this episode of the WASSAP podcast, hosts Désirée Custers and Hubert Kinkoh explore the evolving economic relationship between Africa and the Gulf in the context of an increasingly multipolar world.

They are joined by Aparupa Chakravarti, a strategist working at the intersection of geopolitics, business, development, and social impact across Africa and the Gulf. Drawing on her extensive experience across both regions, Aparupa discusses why Gulf countries have become interesting partners for African states and how their investment approaches differ from those of more traditional external actors.

The conversation also examines emerging sectors of cooperation beyond the commonly discussed...

Special World Cup Episode: Football between Africa and the Gulf

Special World Cup Episode: Football between Africa and the Gulf

38m 50s

In this special World Cup episode of the WASSAP podcast, we explore how football is increasingly shaping relations between Africa and the Gulf, from the expanded 2026 tournament to Saudi Arabia’s hosting ambitions for 2034.

Host Desirée Custers is joined by Hubert Kinkoh and Dr. Sebastian Sons to examine how football has evolved into a field of geopolitical competition, diplomacy, and strategic engagement. The discussion highlights the growing role of Gulf states as key actors in global sports and unpacks how major tournaments and investments are embedded in broader political and economic agendas.

At the same time, the episode considers...